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Filioque

In short
  • S15.1 Split: from the Father through the Son (East; the 381 creed) vs. from the Father principally and the Son (Augustine); creed insertion of filioque is later (medium)

From the study it came from: Agree on the Trinity; on the filioque Scripture's wording matches the Eastern formula.

Two separate measures, shown side by side; neither is combined with the other (confidence-weighted, out of 4; counts show how many of this doctrine's 1 questions each rests on). This doctrine is second-order (tier weight 2). How scoring works · Scripture and tradition · Glossary · Every score with its citation

Closeness to Scripture

1 Orthodox 100% 1/1 q
2 Oriental Orthodox 100% 1/1 q
3 Lutheran 75% 1/1 q
4 Anglican 75% 1/1 q
5 Presbyterian 75% 1/1 q
6 Reformed Baptist 75% 1/1 q
7 General Baptist 75% 1/1 q
8 Catholic 50% 1/1 q
– Anabaptist not assessed 0/1 q

Closeness to the fathers

1 Orthodox 75% 1/1 q
2 Oriental Orthodox 75% 1/1 q
3 Catholic 50% 1/1 q
4 Lutheran 50% 1/1 q
5 Anglican 50% 1/1 q
6 Presbyterian 50% 1/1 q
7 Reformed Baptist 50% 1/1 q
8 General Baptist 50% 1/1 q
– Anabaptist not assessed 0/1 q
Charts: closeness to the fathers by question, and timeline
Closeness to the fathers, by question (0–4). Hatched = not assessed in the category file. Click a question for its verdict.
01234Catholic · S15.1: 2/4 — Florence (1439): from the Father and the Son 'as from one principle'; creed insertion2Orthodox · S15.1: 3/4 — From the Father; Photian 'alone' sharper than 'through the Son'3Oriental Orthodox · S15.1: 3/4 — Nerses Shnorhali: 'emanating, as to its essence, from the Father alone' (verified)3Lutheran · S15.1: 2/4 — Filioque in the Nicene and Athanasian creeds as used2Anglican · S15.1: 2/4 — Art. V: 'proceeding from the Father and the Son'2Presbyterian · S15.1: 2/4 — WCF II.3: 'eternally proceeding from the Father and the Son'2Reformed Baptist · S15.1: 2/4 — 1689 2.3: 'proceeding from the Father and the Son'2General Baptist · S15.1: 2/4 — Receives the Nicene and Athanasian creeds in the Western form (Orthodox Creed 38; to verify wording)2Anabaptist · S15.1: not assessedS15.1conf. medium
CatholicOrthodoxOriental OrthodoxLutheranAnglicanPresbyterianReformed BaptistGeneral BaptistAnabaptistnot assessed
When the cited witnesses spoke (approximate dates) and where later traditions fixed their positions. Filled dot = consensus question; hollow orange = a question on which the fathers varied. Each item links to its source note or post-750 note.
1002003004005006007001000125015001700post-750 (compressed)Gregory Nazianzen (c. 380) · S15.1Gregory Nazianzenc. 380 · S15.1Constantinople I (c. 381) · S15.1Constantinople Ic. 381 · S15.1Augustine (c. 415) · S15.1Augustinec. 415 · S15.1Augustine (c. 415) · S15.1Augustinec. 415 · S15.1John of Damascus (c. 730) · S15.1John of Damascusc. 730 · S15.1Council of Florence (1439) · CatholicCouncil of Florence1439 · CatholicWestminster Confession (1646) · PresbyterianWestminster Confession1646 · PresbyterianConfession of Dositheus (1672) · OrthodoxConfession of Dositheus1672 · Orthodox
  1. c. 380 Gregory Nazianzen S15.1 · fathers varied
  2. c. 381 Constantinople I S15.1 · fathers varied
  3. c. 415 Augustine S15.1 · fathers varied
  4. c. 415 Augustine S15.1 · fathers varied
  5. c. 730 John of Damascus S15.1 · fathers varied
  6. 1439 Council of Florence Catholic
  7. 1646 Westminster Confession Presbyterian
  8. 1672 Confession of Dositheus Orthodox

S15 · Filioque

The procession of the Holy Spirit.

Tier: Second-order (scoring weight 2). How the tiers were set: theological triage. Site structure: structure.

Questions

  • S15.1 Procession of the Spirit (was trinity/T2)

Verdicts and trace

S15.1 · Procession of the Spirit

QuestionVerdictConfidenceReasoningKey sourcesScripture (benchmark)
S15.1Split: from the Father through the Son (East; the 381 creed) vs. from the Father principally and the Son (Augustine); creed insertion of filioque is laterMediumS15.1.1 · S15.1.3 weighingconstantinople-i-tri-s1 · gregory-nazianzen-tri-s1 · augustine-tri-s1 · augustine-tri-s2 · john-of-damascus-tri-s1S15.1.4: medium

Post-750 development

Which of this doctrine’s questions each tradition stays closest to, or departs from. Each row links to the tradition’s notes.

TraditionClosest to the fathers onDeparts or sharpens on
CatholicS15.1partly S15.1
Orthodoxpartly S15.1—
Oriental Orthodoxpartly S15.1—
LutheranS15.1partly S15.1
AnglicanS15.1partly S15.1
PresbyterianS15.1partly S15.1
Reformed BaptistS15.1partly S15.1
General BaptistS15.1partly S15.1
Anabaptist——

Origin

Plan, overall verdict and verification status of the former trinity category (shared with the other doctrines that came from it)

The Trinity and the filioque

Method and conventions: docs/conventions.md. Reasoning: trinity reasoning. Traditions’ sources: confessional sources.

1. Plan

Questions: T1 one God in three co-equal, consubstantial persons; T2 the procession of the Holy Spirit (from the Father, through the Son, or ‘and the Son’). Scripture: Matt 28:19; John 1:1; 10:30; 14:16, 26; 15:26; 16:7, 14–15; Gal 4:6; 2 Cor 13:14. Fathers: Ignatius, Ephesians 7; Tertullian, Against Praxeas 2; Nicaea (325); the Creed of Constantinople (381); Gregory Nazianzen, Oration 31; Augustine, On the Trinity XV.26; John of Damascus, Exact Exposition I.8. Later: Toledo (589), the Photian controversy, Florence (1439), Nerses Shnorhali.

2. Verdicts and trace

Weighed under the source-proximity principle: Scripture first, then the father tiers T1–T4.

3. Post-750 development

4. Overall verdict

T1: universal consensus, Scripture-grounded; all nine agree. T2: Scripture states procession from the Father; the fathers split East/West, and the creed’s 381 text lacks filioque. On T2 the Orthodox and Oriental Orthodox fit Scripture best; Western traditions follow Augustine’s strand.

5. Verification status

Florence, Toledo, Dositheus, AC I, WCF II.3 and the Orthodox Creed’s trinitarian article are cited from standard editions, not rechecked here (Art. V and 1689 2.3 standard; Art. I/V text available in the cached Articles).